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1990 Porsche 964 Carrera 2

This month’s issue of Excellence (2/08, page 102) has the market update on the 964 and 993 series Porsche 911 models. These are my favorite Porsche 911’s hands down. And I’m not alone as the market would show. But on the other hand, the Excellence report shows that prices are still dropping. So low in fact, they indicate that ‘excellent’ examples of all 964 Carrera 2 models command under $30k, and well under $20k for ‘so-so’ examples. My first reaction was disbelief as I’d love to own a good-to-decent 964 for under $20k. Where are these examples I thought to myself?!

So I immediately surfed over to Rennlist, TheSamba, Route30Classics, Craigslist, eBay Motors, and Pelican Parts for private party listings (I trust private party listings far more as a rule than dealer listings). Almost all of the 964’s listed on these sites were either in range as Cabriolet’s or out of range. Which begs the following question:

  • Is there a ton of negotiating room in these ad’s?
  • Am I looking in the wrong places?
  • Or is Excellence wrong?
    • How do they come up with these numbers?
    • If they’re auction averages, isn’t it reasonable to assume that the cars purchased at auction were by brokers/dealers who added a markup of some sort?

There was one car that stood out in my search: 1990 Porsche Carrera 2 on Pelican Parts Classifieds

Porsche 964 For SalePorsche 964 Classified1990 Porsche 911 Carrera 2 For Sale

For Sale: 1990 Carrera 2 Coupe $19,000
120,000 miles
Exterior is in very good condition for the mileage
Interior is in excellent condition
Engine is very strong with no drips
Lowered, with Bilstein sport shocks
Late model year rear brake calipers (same as fronts)
Factory whale tail
Wheels are 17″ aftermarket, I believe Mille Miglia Cup I
Recent (Dec 17, 2007) major service included:
Valve adjustment
Filters, fluids, plugs
Repacked all 4 CV joints
New air temp sensor
New oxygen sensor
New brake light switch
Replaced left rear bumper heat shield
Includes car cover!

The car does not have a radio. If you want me to install an in-dash unit, I will provide one of my choice (radio + CD). In either case the asking price remains the same.

Update 1.6.08: Price dropped to $18k. Maybe there are good examples out there for well under $20k…?

This car looks really solid from the pictures, and the black on black is very sharp (Update:Ed says the car is green and looking at the larger pics, it does look like a really dark green. Thanks Ed!). The only flag in my mind is that this car may have been used as a test bed or track day car. The owner sells application software to log telemetry data over video files generated at track events (VERY COOL!), and it could be assumed that this car was used accordingly. That said, many of the cars that I’ve seen at track days are easily in far better shape than the daily street warriors that show up. A decent inspection should put any worries to bed if the car is in good nick.

So what do you think? I’m hoping that Paul from Sports Car Shop in Eugene, Oregon, will comment as he is my best Porsche resource! Update 1.7.08:Check out Paul’s assessment in the comments.

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1977 Porsche 911S w/ late model 3.6L swap!

The U.S. 75-77 Porsche 911, known as the ‘middle years’, are some of the least sought after 911’s ever. Nearly every 911 buyer’s guide I’ve ever read recommends against these models due to serious engine concerns and instead point to the 78-82 Porsche 911SC, which is considered bullet-proof in comparison. This car seems to have solved that issue with the swap of a 993 3.6L Vario-ram motor!

1977 Porsche 911S w/ 3.8L on eBay

Porsche 911S For Sale1977 Porsche 911S w/ 3.8LPorsche 911S Middle Years

Spotted first on Pelican Parts for sale forum, this is an enthusiast’s pet project, and his lengthy eBay description demonstrates a real attachment to the car.

Currently at $14k+, reserve not met (UPDATE 12.26.07: Sold for $22k.). I imagine it will take longer than a few weeks to sell a car like this as it will have to be thoroughly inspected before even being considered. Not to mention, it has a lot of personal taste sort of considerations — like that color combo for instance! But for the right buyer, this could be a really cool Porsche-R-Gruppe like car.

Update:Whoops, Paul from the Sports Car Shop corrected me that the motor is a 3.6L, not a 3.8L. Sorry about the error!

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1984 Porsche 911 3.2 Carrera: Just in time for Christmas!

I’m a sucker for white German cars, and this 84 911 3.2 for $16k looks like a decent buy on Roadfly. The ad states too many records to list, which is always a good sign. 125k miles on a well maintained early 911 is just getting her warmed up!

Porsche 911 For Sale White

For an 84 in good nick, this is worth a look for sure.

UPDATE: Oh yeah, and I’m a sucker for white on white. Here’s a pic from the past:

1990 Honda Prelude Si 21990 Honda Prelude Si

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1978 Porsche 911SC Euro w/ RUF Accessories

There’s a lot I like about this 911sc in Texas: It’s a Euro 911 (about 25+ hp), doesn’t have a sunroof (nice weight savings), RUF bumpers front and rear (more weight savings), and the sexy RUF wheels (appropriately spelled as wheel$ in the post).

Porsche 911 RUF For SalePorsche 911 Euro1978 Porsche 911SC For Sale

1978 Porsche 911SC RUF Clone on PelicanParts

The bad news is that it sounds like the interior is a little rough and it’s been repainted. Plus I’m really not feeling the RS America wing. But considering the list of maintenance and relatively low miles for an SC (122k), $14.5k sounds like a pretty solid deal and definitely worth a look.

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Update: This listing is very out of date. Why not check out one of these RUF equipped Porsches and Parts on eBay right now:

[AffomaticEbay]Porsche RUF[/AffomaticEbay]